tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post199146337834294607..comments2024-03-25T18:50:15.135-04:00Comments on DCmud - The Urban Real Estate Digest of Washington DC: DC’s Newest Development District is…the Florida Avenue Market?Kenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08295461340042242438noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-34382863541812154322009-05-18T16:28:00.000-04:002009-05-18T16:28:00.000-04:00not on Parker wrote:
"...the prostitutes, the dru...not on Parker wrote:<br /><br />"...the prostitutes, the drug deals, the robberies at the gas stations (TWO GAS STATIONS! right next to each other!), the disorderly fights on weekends and weekday evenings..."<br /><br />"Sounds like most of DC..."<br /><br />THAT'S SO FUNNY -- I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING IT SOUNDED LIKE MOST OF FAIRFAX COUNTY, ESPECIALLY THAT WHOLE ARLANDRIA, BAILEY'S, SEVEN CORNERS SWATH. NEVER GOT HELD UP IN DC, BUT ROBBED A HALF DOZEN TIMES IN FAIRFAX."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-59813379034209981502009-05-18T09:35:00.000-04:002009-05-18T09:35:00.000-04:00"...the prostitutes, the drug deals, the robberies..."...the prostitutes, the drug deals, the robberies at the gas stations (TWO GAS STATIONS! right next to each other!), the disorderly fights on weekends and weekday evenings..."<br /><br />Sounds like most of DC...not on parkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-55222578355505074182009-05-18T09:34:00.000-04:002009-05-18T09:34:00.000-04:00"...that huge parking lot bordered by Neal/5th/6th..."...that huge parking lot bordered by Neal/5th/6th that has the flea market bizarre is vacant by development definitions...". You mean the one owned by Gallaudet University?<br /><br />"...the sheds that occupy the land south of Penn and between 5th and 6th are basically vacant..." They are not vacant.not on parkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-85421791158150298732009-05-18T09:28:00.000-04:002009-05-18T09:28:00.000-04:00"...though the crime rate in the surrounding commu..."...though the crime rate in the surrounding communities goes unmentioned..."<br /><br />Which surrounding communities? Florida Market is surrounded by Gallaudet, train tracks, and Near Northeast. If you are trying to insinuate there's a relationship between Trinidad and the Florida Market, you are sadly mistaken.not on parkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-25432412355107891222009-05-15T16:42:00.000-04:002009-05-15T16:42:00.000-04:00i dunno. i'll miss the joint....
the prostitutes,...i dunno. i'll miss the joint....<br /><br />the prostitutes, the drug deals, the robberies at the gas stations (TWO GAS STATIONS! right next to each other!), the disorderly fights on weekends and weekday evenings.....<br /><br />why do we have make it a "destination"? my friends think i'm all cool, living in a ghetto. if we remake the market, i'll look just like them: a hipster in a hip part of town.<br /><br />not cool.<br /><br />keep the market as is, and provide a place for neighbors to walk their pit bulls without leashes!granolas sucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-66454043344411578052009-05-15T15:23:00.000-04:002009-05-15T15:23:00.000-04:00There's definitely "underutilized" land, but the p...There's definitely "underutilized" land, but the page 28 of the plan only shows one vacant parcel, at 4th and Florida. (The other corner of 4th/Fl is now vacant as well.)<br /><br />It's a major distinction between vacant and underutilized. For example, a lot of H NE and (previously) NoMA is actual vacant land. The flea market site in the market area is not the highest and best use, but it is a Gallaudet parking lot with a regular tenant for the weekends.<br /><br />Meanwhile, pages 56-57 shows the map and chart for transferable development rights to preserve the potentially historic buildings. But note that no buildings are currently designated, and there is no historic district at this location. TDRs is where the preservation action will occur, which has been used successfully downtown for years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-11396303033512972402009-05-15T14:24:00.000-04:002009-05-15T14:24:00.000-04:00Will we be calling this neighborhood FAM?Will we be calling this neighborhood FAM?Brandonhttp://www.brandongreenandassociates.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-69877908073749712562009-05-15T12:38:00.000-04:002009-05-15T12:38:00.000-04:00There is definitely vacant land on this site. That...There is definitely vacant land on this site. That huge parking lot bordered by Neal/5th/6th that has the flea market bizarre is vacant by development definitions. The sheds that occupy the land south of Penn and between 5th and 6th are basically vacant.Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-8066690664077634302009-05-15T10:50:00.000-04:002009-05-15T10:50:00.000-04:00Part I, pg. 25:
"numerous under-developed and vac...Part I, pg. 25:<br /><br />"numerous under-developed and vacant sites throughout the entire area"<br /><br />Part I, pg. 55:<br /><br />"Rehabilitation of the potentially historic buildings may take advantage of federal preservation tax incentives that allow 20% of rehabilitation costs to be taken as a tax credit."Nopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212559173015976225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-20484944475823686672009-05-15T08:58:00.000-04:002009-05-15T08:58:00.000-04:00You've definitely presented a LOT of false informa...You've definitely presented a LOT of false information here. The "FACTUAL" information that you provide, including vacant land, hp, etc., is absolutely false.<br /><br />I encourage anyone interested to read the plan themselves. My "authority" on the subject is that I've actually read through the plan!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-79787523535053077052009-05-15T08:21:00.000-04:002009-05-15T08:21:00.000-04:00Um, listen guy, all of this information IS sourced...Um, listen guy, all of this information IS sourced directly from the plan. <br /><br />I would take you to task on each and every one of these points, but I find it curious that someone who presents them self as an authority on the subject would choose to remain anonymous.<br /><br />As always, readers can view the plan for themselves via the link and draw their own conclusions. You may disagree with some of my observations (the impact of Trinidad/Ivy City, for instance), but the FACTUAL information relayed is true - at least according to the info provided by OP (the vacant land, hp, etc).Nopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212559173015976225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-25486049542263315372009-05-14T23:04:00.000-04:002009-05-14T23:04:00.000-04:00Let's keep it positive. Good news, Eastern Market ...Let's keep it positive. Good news, Eastern Market will reopen in June!<br />Hopefully, the same effort that is has been put behind the renovation and preservation of Eastern Market will happen to Florida Avenue Market.americanballad@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14924622083592365376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-37721737123120305862009-05-14T21:14:00.000-04:002009-05-14T21:14:00.000-04:00Wow. Did you even read the plan? So many errors,...Wow. Did you even read the plan? So many errors, it's hard to list all of them. <br /><br />1. The diagrams showing the future use were in the plan as the earlier stages of planning and are are not the current recommendation.<br />2. Trinidad and Ivy City are separated from the market area by Gallaudet, a large university. It's far, far, far closer to NoMA and Near Northeast.<br />3. No mention of J Street, which owns more land than Sang Oh Choi/Apollo.<br />4. Very little is actual vacant land. Just the two sites at the corner of 4th and Florida, one of which is the Gateway Market & Residence project.<br />5. There is no mention of any tax abatement for historic preservation. They recommend TDRs.<br />6. "Federal PUD process?" What does the Federal Government have to do with DC's PUD process?<br />7. This is the draft plan, not the final version.<br /><br />It's a decent start of a plan, although it definitely a lot of revisions. But most of all, seriously, where did you get your summary?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com