tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post2938354704182248624..comments2024-03-25T18:50:15.135-04:00Comments on DCmud - The Urban Real Estate Digest of Washington DC: Big Bear Cafe Mauled By Angry ANC MembersKenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08295461340042242438noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-6358712106751991142010-08-02T14:55:35.591-04:002010-08-02T14:55:35.591-04:00What this article fails to state is that there are...What this article fails to state is that there are concerns over the lack of permitting, the selling of BBC will now be a sit-down full service establishment (which is not true), zoning, etc. It surely isn't an easy issue. Given the mass of misinformation by the applicant, the ANC was forced to oppose the application. Now if BBC gets it’s house in order they are free to bring it back to the ANC for another vote. Furthermore, BBC has stated they withdrew the application which is not the case at all.TheCommisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712967845031648192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-20095294867755177402010-08-02T14:52:41.739-04:002010-08-02T14:52:41.739-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.TheCommisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712967845031648192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-61567478793024115592010-08-02T11:57:57.063-04:002010-08-02T11:57:57.063-04:00I have loved the Big Bear since it opened and I am...I have loved the Big Bear since it opened and I am incensed that a small group of ANC commissioners could do this to the most popular and successful business Bloomingdale has. They DO NOT speak for me. BTW, ANC Commissioner John Salatti was in support of BB but had to be away on business the night of the ANC vote. I say disband the ANCs. They do not represent me.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11951293405974875768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-71978298491395302052010-07-30T17:08:49.733-04:002010-07-30T17:08:49.733-04:00"genuine, responsible, small business is goin..."genuine, responsible, small business is going to go down"<br />Where does it say that in the article?<br /> <br />Why is so much energy invested in Big Bear? Bloomingdale has much bigger issues than whether or not one place can sell booze. This story gets so much ink, City Paper, Blogs, really that serious? People want to claim this is anti gentrification, I do not remember anyone opposing their opening.<br /><br />Big Bear suck it up do a little more outreach and try again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-75418514200386893342010-07-30T16:29:29.541-04:002010-07-30T16:29:29.541-04:00Surely the churches must be involved... Think of t...Surely the churches must be involved... Think of the babies! How can we let a place responsibly serving $6 glasses of wine and micro-brews exist near our babies!?!? ...never mind the perpetually drunk-skunks around the corner at Big Ben 24/7.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-68352806604913592032010-07-30T16:26:59.348-04:002010-07-30T16:26:59.348-04:00anon 2:25
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it happens all over the country.anon 2:25<br />------<br />it happens all over the country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-85374545291348804982010-07-30T16:25:51.082-04:002010-07-30T16:25:51.082-04:00actually even the r-4 zoning allows big bear to ad...actually even the r-4 zoning allows big bear to add an additional floor as a matter of right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-7067400822587981912010-07-30T15:58:43.625-04:002010-07-30T15:58:43.625-04:00This is so ridiculous - a genuine, responsible, sm...This is so ridiculous - a genuine, responsible, small business is going to go down because bureaucratic processes in DC allow a small group of NIMBYS high jack the agenda?! and this is in a neighborhood that needs actually severely lacks public amenities?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-86669431989824496222010-07-30T14:25:51.841-04:002010-07-30T14:25:51.841-04:00Wow, the building could be torn down and a new one...Wow, the building could be torn down and a new one could go up that is a whole 10 FEET HIGHER. Sweet Jesus, how would the neighborhood ever recover from that?<br /><br />I swear, only in DC where everyone is so hyper height-sensitive could this ever be an issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-72776212929777786682010-07-30T12:11:36.840-04:002010-07-30T12:11:36.840-04:00Sadly, this has been a race to the bottom between ...Sadly, this has been a race to the bottom between both the ANC and local bloggers. <br /><br />It's kind of weird that Salatti, a nearby ANC, didn't attend given how contentious the meeting was going to be. <br /><br />Also, w/ regards to non-local ANC comments, there are about half of the ANCS in 5c that are impacted by this. 5c01 (northern TC),5c02(Eckington), and 5c06 in addition to 5c03 (recused/Davenport) and 5c04 (absent/Salatti)<br /><br />I think more the lesson to be learned regarding liquor licenses:<br />1. DO NOT have prior involvement in local politics. (too many enemies)<br />2. Make sure your permitting/application is 100% bullet proof.<br />3. Pissing contest the internet goes nowhereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-42947405919447720122010-07-30T11:22:23.422-04:002010-07-30T11:22:23.422-04:00I think when you get down to the real root of the ...I think when you get down to the real root of the opposition, it is more about anti-gentrification than concerns over zoning, noise, etc. My neighborhood has one of the biggest critics to any potential development....Shiloh Baptist Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-18535450093698159042010-07-30T09:48:06.144-04:002010-07-30T09:48:06.144-04:00Hear, hear. It should be noted that the ANC Commi...Hear, hear. It should be noted that the ANC Commissioners who are opposed to the liquor license are all from outside of Bloomingdale. Those that represent the actual neighborhood supports it. <br /><br />One of the more outspoken ANC members represents Fort Totten. Now someone please explain to me why a representative of Fort Totten should be able to have ANY say whether or not a coffee shop on First and R St NW (Nearly two miles away) should be able to sell liquor? <br /><br />Most important fact in my mind: there is overwhelming support for this license and zoning change in the neighborhood (hundreds of residents), and only a couple dozen residents who are concerned. And a group of ANC commissioners who are playing politics, trying to make a name for themselves, etc.<br /><br />And is BBC really going to be turned down a request to rezone because someone could add 10' to the structure? Has anyone looked across the street to the 1970s public housing buildings with the giant fence surrounding it? Is that more in the character with the neighborhood?Bloomie Resnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-48020436415414141102010-07-29T21:49:24.668-04:002010-07-29T21:49:24.668-04:00The ANC is the Advisory Neighborhood Commissions, ...The ANC is the Advisory Neighborhood Commissions, if you are extra bored and curious, read about them here...<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advisory_Neighborhood_CommissionBrooks Butler Hayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813289289229406067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-33737371766947710132010-07-29T21:26:02.058-04:002010-07-29T21:26:02.058-04:00interesting article but who is the ANC? Did I miss...interesting article but who is the ANC? Did I miss that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-7542037478773570612010-07-29T18:43:31.739-04:002010-07-29T18:43:31.739-04:00you're right anon, i originally had it correct...you're right anon, i originally had it correct, seeing as i did sit through the whole live web video of the proceedings, but for some reason i thought a small case like this would be bza and not zc. fixed now.Brooks Butler Hayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813289289229406067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-1309496652355830432010-07-29T18:33:59.268-04:002010-07-29T18:33:59.268-04:00I realize this isn't exactly an "insightf...I realize this isn't exactly an "insightful" comment, since its more of the nitpicky variety, but the Big Bear filed the zoning map amendment petition with the DC Zoning Commission, who will decide it, not the BZA. They are different.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com