tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post2428588719324872790..comments2024-03-25T18:50:15.135-04:00Comments on DCmud - The Urban Real Estate Digest of Washington DC: City Again Rules to Save Historic Mt. Vernon Triangle HousesKenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08295461340042242438noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-53194769855543468362012-11-13T17:49:50.899-05:002012-11-13T17:49:50.899-05:00I am a long-time, faithful member of my church (no...I am a long-time, faithful member of my church (not the church in question). We too have problems with parking on Sundays because EVERYBODY drives, including those that live walking distance from the church. So I understand the needs of this congregation to fix the problem and get cars off the street. <br /><br />That said, I am a proponent of following the law, in this case the historic preservation law. Of course the church asked for an exception (don't beat them up for that!). But now that it is clear that the exception will not be granted, the church must decide to bite the bullet, restore these buildings and putthem to good use or sell them to someone who can restore them. Historic proprties are all around us and it's important to preserve them.<br /><br />If they sell, maybe the church can use those funds for construction of some kind of underground parking? Who knows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-6033966388266208692012-11-13T16:20:21.362-05:002012-11-13T16:20:21.362-05:00Liberals instinctively embrace dilapidated hovels....Liberals instinctively embrace dilapidated hovels. They claim to be "progressive" and never like to promote the past... unless it means preserving blight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-1871273054313576852012-11-13T16:17:21.103-05:002012-11-13T16:17:21.103-05:00This is not a racial fight and anyone that makes i...This is not a racial fight and anyone that makes it out as one is either misinformed or doing so for their own agenda.<br /><br />The same ANC and HPRB opposed the plans of another church at 700 A Street NE that has a caucasian pastor and primarily caucasian clientele. <br /><br />The new owners of what was Unity Baptist Church (until the church sold the property for $1.25 million) undertook illegal renovations and demolished historically significant stained glass windows without a permit. The ANC, neighborhood and City government pursued action against this church just as aggressively. <br /><br />Following the law, including historic preservation laws, is a responsibility of all property owners who choose to purchase or own property in a historic district, regardless of their racial or ethnic background.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-81611739812451504862012-11-13T15:46:51.328-05:002012-11-13T15:46:51.328-05:00Jay: I'm curious, where has Abdo done this? I ...<b>Jay</b>: I'm curious, where has Abdo done this? I know that Douglas has that reputation as well. Perhaps it's univeral.IMGophhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10389077782536090328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-51699715988809048682012-11-13T15:40:48.394-05:002012-11-13T15:40:48.394-05:00This happens all the time in DC. Developers, weth...This happens all the time in DC. Developers, wether unsophisticated churches or Jim Abdo, leave the building to rot until it can be torn because they have let it become worthless. Churches can't get away with it so easy, but Jim Abdo, on the other hand, has gotten away with it a number of times.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-8798095284775253802012-11-13T12:33:54.309-05:002012-11-13T12:33:54.309-05:00aaa: I'm against groups that want to destroy o...<b>aaa</b>: I'm against groups that want to destroy our city's architectural heritage. I don't care if they're christian or atheist, black or white, gay or straight.<br /><br />Follow the law, church, or sell the buildings. Pretty simple.IMGophhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10389077782536090328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-3290521227961878382012-11-13T12:27:21.534-05:002012-11-13T12:27:21.534-05:00I also wonder about anti-black behavior--not so mu...I also wonder about anti-black behavior--not so much on the part of HPRB but by commenters on blogs like this one. It seems like people are seriously anti-HPRB when it comes to young professional (read: white) homeowners, then flip around when the target is a black institution like this one. I know personally that this church's pastor is trying her damnedest to feed and minister to the neighborhood's poor, so I don't get where the pushback here comes from. Ahem, @IMGoph?aaanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-54350132773246401202012-11-13T11:36:58.975-05:002012-11-13T11:36:58.975-05:00This feels like more anti-black behavior on the pa...This feels like more anti-black behavior on the part of the HPRB. Do the preservationists and the neighborhood not feel comfortable with African-American neighbors? Preservation law is the new Jim Crow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-91801090142175968132012-11-12T17:39:35.779-05:002012-11-12T17:39:35.779-05:005:20 anonymous: real classy with the purposeful mi...<b>5:20 anonymous</b>: real classy with the purposeful misspelling of my name there.<br /><br />anyway, someone was arguing for the church to break the law, so i argued right back for the city to break the law too.<br /><br />if you're going to lecture me on what's legal, make sure you lecture the fool who ranted about "preservation nazis" too, okie dokie?IMGophhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10389077782536090328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-20190945944147827642012-11-12T17:20:48.142-05:002012-11-12T17:20:48.142-05:00@ IMGoof,
I don't think the city can just &qu...@ IMGoof,<br /><br />I don't think the city can just "move to seize their other properties in the neighborhood." There is this pesky little thing called the Fifth Amendment that prevents the Government from doing that except for certain limited purposes. You may not like the church, but it has rights, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-52550508297623786982012-11-12T11:13:05.748-05:002012-11-12T11:13:05.748-05:00I live very close to this church and am very happy...I live very close to this church and am very happy with the result. Forget the preservation argument - I'm glad my neighborhood won't add parking for church members who do not live in the neighborhood. Additional parking does not serve the area, it just adds more drivers and congestion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-37886628136606285262012-11-11T17:27:02.672-05:002012-11-11T17:27:02.672-05:00who's not community members, IMGoph? i hope yo...who's not community members, IMGoph? i hope you're not talking about the church.aaanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-4665921090177484942012-11-11T15:18:36.204-05:002012-11-11T15:18:36.204-05:00and right after the church does that, anonymous, t...and right after the church does that, <b>anonymous</b>, the city should move to seize their other properties in the neighborhood.<br /><br />they are not "community" members. they are cancerous.IMGophhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10389077782536090328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-65965762271961912182012-11-10T14:42:51.893-05:002012-11-10T14:42:51.893-05:00The church should bring in the wrecking ball, tear...The church should bring in the wrecking ball, tear them down in a day, and tell the HPRB to shove it. The preservation nazis strike again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-46886321912166104152012-11-10T09:36:26.062-05:002012-11-10T09:36:26.062-05:00Good call on the city's part. I've notice...Good call on the city's part. I've noticed a few churches lately get smart and sell their properties and work out deals with the developer to get reserved Sunday parking for their parishioners. Seems like a easy win-win solution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-54283818158211890692012-11-09T20:07:15.828-05:002012-11-09T20:07:15.828-05:00In this day and age, to tear down historic propert...In this day and age, to tear down historic properties for a parking lot is a crime...or in the church's case, a sin!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-80491629236555047542012-11-09T19:06:12.249-05:002012-11-09T19:06:12.249-05:00Good. Nobody should be allowed to get around histo...Good. Nobody should be allowed to get around historic preservation laws through demolition by neglect. There's no hardship, especially when the church pays no property taxes on the buildings. Fix them up or sell them.Adam Lhttp://www.twitter.com/AdamLDCnoreply@blogger.com