tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post5019246386182747408..comments2024-03-25T18:50:15.135-04:00Comments on DCmud - The Urban Real Estate Digest of Washington DC: Eisenhower Memorial Draws Flack, CompetitionKenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08295461340042242438noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-45604144222830866632012-02-09T23:45:41.133-05:002012-02-09T23:45:41.133-05:00The critics are traditionalist blowhards. They rea...The critics are traditionalist blowhards. They really should be called out on this. They are ideologically opposed to contemporary architecture. We're lucky that Gehry was picked -- he should be allowed to do what he does so well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-71728534219361963622011-02-07T15:32:18.316-05:002011-02-07T15:32:18.316-05:00did you ask for analysis?
ok, how about looking up...did you ask for analysis?<br />ok, how about looking up the word modern and then telling us how the WWII memorial dosen't qualify.<br />zing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-79007698192063156142011-02-07T09:44:25.266-05:002011-02-07T09:44:25.266-05:00Interesting to see comments from the Architectural...Interesting to see comments from the Architectural Committee of the Tea Party. Much as, to Tea Partiers, everything they like counts as "conservative," whereas everything they don't like counts as "liberal," here we see that everything they don't like counts as "Modern," and everything they like counts as "Classical."<br /><br />How else to explain the previous commenter, who believes that the WWII Memorial is "modern"?!! (Somewhat stripped neo-classical would be accurate.) And that Kalorama townhouses are "classical"?! (Neo-Georgian would be accurate as a descriptor of the more classically-leaning Kalorama rowhouses.)<br /><br />Sorry, Tea Party architecture critics, but thinking, learning, and analysis is necessary. The problem with Gehry's proposal isn't that it's modern--in fact that's about the only relevant & appropriate aspect of the design--the problem is that it's pointless and random.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-76843278983762605682011-02-04T06:33:23.188-05:002011-02-04T06:33:23.188-05:00We don't build Greek temples but yet most peop...We don't build Greek temples but yet most people would like to live in a Classically inspired Kalorama Town home over a glass and steel cube. Yeah, I can't tell you how many people lingering in the WWII memorial complain about it's fascist design! <br /><br />It's 2011 people, it's about time to stop listening to those who say we must have cold and dehumanized art. Ironically, it sounds like the middle ages where a few high priests of modernism tell us what to like. Being truly modern is being able to decide what form best suits a function, even if it strives to be beautiful, not just deep.<br /><br />I have an idea, get the winner of this classical competition and put it up against Gehry's design, and then have the public vote. Now that would truly be modern.Thayer-Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04892043179839099462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-2833904384281156162011-02-03T22:36:38.116-05:002011-02-03T22:36:38.116-05:00i agree. outright classicism seems too far in the...i agree. outright classicism seems too far in the other direction. besides, i think the fascist design of the WWII memorial has worn out the welcome for classicist memorials at the mall. <br /><br />there simply needs to be a re-do. perhaps the real benefit of the NCAS effort could be build support and expose the need for reexamining the gehry proposal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-86110817914811858452011-02-03T16:46:11.962-05:002011-02-03T16:46:11.962-05:00You've got to be kidding. Gehry designs a bom...You've got to be kidding. Gehry designs a bombastic monster and so suddenly Classicism is the answer? It's 2011, people. We don't build Greek temples anymore for many good reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-65692126835800027692011-02-03T16:41:54.622-05:002011-02-03T16:41:54.622-05:00Oh my god. NO, NO, NO! Classicism? Please, no. ...Oh my god. NO, NO, NO! Classicism? Please, no. A classicist design would be one of the few things worse than the current schemes. Eisenhower was president during the 1950s, the beginning of the heyday of modernism. A classical memorial would be ridiculous, not just because it is inappropriate for our current time, but also because it is irrelevant to his own time. We just need a better modern solution!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-66926183642668297372011-02-03T07:20:38.549-05:002011-02-03T07:20:38.549-05:00My hope is this controversy will highlight the ban...My hope is this controversy will highlight the bankrupcy of conceptual modernism in how alienating it seems to sooo many people. If architects won't design buildings and monuments that more people like then voiding these proposals by public decree seems the only way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-46040816436326258082011-02-03T06:51:10.211-05:002011-02-03T06:51:10.211-05:00We acknowledge the mistake about the Alaskan state...We acknowledge the mistake about the Alaskan state capitol. Due to the late hour of publication DCMud did not have time to independently verify the author of the new design. We regret the error. Just to say thanks, we'll offer you a free one-year subscription to our newsletter.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295461340042242438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-40230354282694226452011-02-03T06:31:24.184-05:002011-02-03T06:31:24.184-05:00We should have learned now that simple is better. ...We should have learned now that simple is better. The simplicity of a fountain or sculpture is great, note the simple elegance of the Viet Nam Vets memorial vs. the overwrought, overdone WWII Memorial and FDR memorials, both of which completely overwhelm their surroundings and are much less powerful in their message. The latter are gaudy and wasteful in their use of space, the former remains a touching tribute.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-3249862333010156052011-02-02T21:40:14.016-05:002011-02-02T21:40:14.016-05:00Please note, the Alaskan Capitol counterproposal w...Please note, the Alaskan Capitol counterproposal was not designed by an architecture student. It was designed by Marianne Cusato, a licensed architect and author of "Get Your House Right: Architectural Elements to Use & Avoid." You can see Cusato's counterproposal in her article "Alaska Deserves a Real Capitol Building, Not an Egg" (http://www.tndtownpaper.com/Volume7/alaska_deserves.htm).<br /><br />Let's hope the National Civic Art Society's competition is equally successful in promoting a more beautiful, fitting, and popular design.Laurence Aurbachhttp://pedshed.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-24226269417098526252011-02-02T21:22:10.141-05:002011-02-02T21:22:10.141-05:00There were other archtitects in the competition - ...There were other archtitects in the competition - this design being the best:<br />http://www.rogersmarvel.com/Eisenhower.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-62290749155210086222011-02-02T20:08:04.060-05:002011-02-02T20:08:04.060-05:00Can't we just have a nice area with some trees...Can't we just have a nice area with some trees - so tourist can hide from the oppressive heat on the barren wasteland which is the National Mall. Why goof it up with wacky pillars and weird panels. Trees, cool/designy benches, some interesting platforms (trees at different levels, etc). Maybe a fountain. Damn - I should be an architect! Oh and a nice statue of Ike. Done - Ill draw it up for a $150 Starbucks card.Ace in DCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-31675991912784038412011-02-02T19:20:23.857-05:002011-02-02T19:20:23.857-05:00Please note this correction: The Alaskan Capitol c...Please note this correction: The Alaskan Capitol counterproposal was not designed by an architecture student. It was designed by <a href="http://www.mariannecusato.com/" rel="nofollow">Marianne Cusato</a>, a licensed architect and author of "Get Your House Right: Architectural Elements to Use & Avoid." You can see Cusato's counterproposal in her article <a href="http://www.tndtownpaper.com/Volume7/alaska_deserves.htm" rel="nofollow">Alaska Deserves a Real Capitol Building, Not an Egg</a>.Laurence Aurbachhttp://pedshed.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-92231184641688626492011-02-02T19:01:42.351-05:002011-02-02T19:01:42.351-05:00Do it! This may not be Cairo, but maybe if enough...Do it! This may not be Cairo, but maybe if enough people make enough noise about abusing our city, the people behind this will rethink. Its possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com