tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post957049879035764660..comments2024-03-25T18:50:15.135-04:00Comments on DCmud - The Urban Real Estate Digest of Washington DC: Greenwashing the DistrictKenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08295461340042242438noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-68676043615730515702010-08-14T17:57:29.783-04:002010-08-14T17:57:29.783-04:00I hate that Leed is like a private island with lim...I hate that Leed is like a private island with limited access with the general public and even entrepreneurs.<br /><br />They should capitalize on there position as a organization at the forefront of green policies by providing free clinics to entrepreneurs, building owners and managers. <br /><br />LEED instead has a anti-social feel and approach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-10257865995834950422010-08-14T17:55:47.636-04:002010-08-14T17:55:47.636-04:00I hate that Leed is like a private island with lim...I hate that Leed is like a private island with limited access with the general public and even entrepreneurs.<br /><br />They should capitalize on there position as a organization at the forefront of green policies by providing free clinics to entrepreneurs, building owners and managers. <br /><br />LEED instead has a anti-social feel and approach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-81192319340888475332010-04-12T20:33:13.298-04:002010-04-12T20:33:13.298-04:00Re: Bill Brasky
I had the same question, about th...Re: Bill Brasky<br /><br />I had the same question, about the differences in leasing rates and prices being due to age, not LEED certification. Not sure about the study cited, but the Co-Star study says that it controlled for age of building.realWashingtoniannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-19991389880659354982010-04-09T09:50:24.456-04:002010-04-09T09:50:24.456-04:00Regarding the favorable rental rates and sales pri...Regarding the favorable rental rates and sales prices quoted, I do not dispute this fact however, consider for a second the age of LEED certified buildings and those that are not; newer building or recently retrofitted/rehabbed will always be more desirable than older product. This result does not prove a direct cause and effect relationship IMOBill Braskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942099595209188182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-55993170105973623352010-04-08T18:17:35.667-04:002010-04-08T18:17:35.667-04:00I'm not convinced with Owens' argument tha...I'm not convinced with Owens' argument that the height limit is a big constraint on DC's ability to be resource-efficient. As others have noted - Paris, or most of New York City beyond those portions of Manhattan that are built out higher than 10-12 stories. <br />Taken to the extreme, high buildings begin to become more inefficient, as the costs of vertical transportation and utility distribution increase. <br />Also excessive concentration of jobs in the center, could be less efficient than distributing jobs closer to people's homes, and also concentration requires building more capacity into the transportation system to accommodate those peak loads.<br />So maybe if DC just kept spreading out at 10-12 stories along new transit lines it might develop a more efficient network than NYC. <br /><br />I agree with the LEED is so bureaucratic comments. But to its credit, it is a work in progress though, 3.0 has given more emphasis to energy use, and it does make designers or owners think about issues that previously would have been ignored - like bike racks.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08646843427167901518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-60810167430538405932010-04-08T11:25:09.653-04:002010-04-08T11:25:09.653-04:00Ken-
I don't think "Cites" was quib...Ken-<br /><br />I don't think "Cites" was quibbling about the facts and figures in the post but about the improper use of the word "sites" in the sentence. It should read:<br /><br />"Owen cites* a 2008 study by the USGBC..."<br /><br />*short for "citation" (5. the act of citing or quoting a reference to an authority or a precedent. <br />6.a passage cited; quotation.)LongTimeReznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-26418922206305006352010-04-07T20:24:10.961-04:002010-04-07T20:24:10.961-04:00Co Star actually puts the numbers even higher than...Co Star actually puts the numbers even higher than the study quoted in the post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-81244273411169504232010-04-07T20:21:59.133-04:002010-04-07T20:21:59.133-04:00Another reality of DC's height limit is that w...Another reality of DC's height limit is that we have more street trees and green roofs that NYC which makes DC a far more sustainable city, than the steel metropolis to the north.<br /><br />I appreciate how LEED has pushed innovation and forced change in code and regulations that opened the door for further innovation. <br /><br />Looking at the numbers in DC, the real story is the rise in LEED EB O&M buildings both registered and certified. These are existing buildings operating in more energy efficient and sustainable manner than they are currently. That is great if LEED is a tool that can take them in that direction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-20848776933589881902010-04-07T18:27:33.685-04:002010-04-07T18:27:33.685-04:00Cites;
The quote about the sales and rentals is a...Cites;<br /><br />The quote about the sales and rentals is accurate; that's the author's contention, we did not independently verify that he is right.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295461340042242438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-87920913515864704302010-04-07T14:44:14.689-04:002010-04-07T14:44:14.689-04:00Overall, the LEED program has been enormously succ...Overall, the LEED program has been enormously successful at creating and transforming the market for green design. I believe this was a fundamental goal of the USGBC when creating the program. All those LEED buildings around DC create a market for materials with recycled content, for instance.<br /><br />The certification bureaucracy is what most architects complain about and the USGBC is well aware of these complaints. Other people and designers who argue that the LEED requirements are too lax should realize that an overly stringent program would stifle growth in the marketplace. While designing a zero energy building is commendable, if the USGBC had required this level of design at the outset, the robust market for green design would not exist today.<br /><br />The more LEED buildings the better!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12648349498454418512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-9273094311688297932010-04-07T11:08:28.181-04:002010-04-07T11:08:28.181-04:00But the posting doesn't really indicate *why* ...But the posting doesn't really indicate *why* LEED is just "greenwashing." Having bike racks is a good thing. But LEED gives an applicant points for a lot of other stuff. <br /><br />I'm not saying I don't agree with the headline -- it's just that the argument isn't made. I'd like to know more about what, exactly, makes LEED non-sustainable. The bureaucratic problems don't go to the core of that question.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-28385812458814762732010-04-07T10:11:07.877-04:002010-04-07T10:11:07.877-04:00If the future of our cities is based on Manhattan,...If the future of our cities is based on Manhattan, I will be seriously depressed.A-lohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00620430902025626692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-10785821315956653762010-04-07T09:22:50.248-04:002010-04-07T09:22:50.248-04:00There is an alternative to LEED building standards...There is an alternative to LEED building standards called Green Globes. It is based out of Portland, Oregon and it is much less bureaucratic.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05181782293076746847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-43322279409425123672010-04-06T22:20:48.197-04:002010-04-06T22:20:48.197-04:00"Owen sites a 2008 study by the USGBC that LE..."Owen sites a 2008 study by the USGBC that LEED certified buildings rent for $11.24 per square foot more and sell for $177 per square foot more than non-LEED buildings and enjoy 3.8% higher occupancy rates."<br /><br />Seriously? Get worse. QC your work.Citesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-38543840830768609002010-04-06T21:09:57.800-04:002010-04-06T21:09:57.800-04:00Yeah, Paris is the perfect counter point to the ar...Yeah, Paris is the perfect counter point to the argument that high limits reduce density. DC only has 600k not necessarily because of the high limit. But, rather the fact that we have so many single family homes and private years. DC could easily have 2 million people without raising the height limit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-87265659941027825352010-04-06T19:44:25.509-04:002010-04-06T19:44:25.509-04:00sure, the height limits keep the city from being d...sure, the height limits keep the city from being denser, but claiming that the width of the streets has something to do with it is a bit of a stretch, methinks.IMGophhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10389077782536090328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22305958.post-37178523601537077372010-04-06T15:54:38.196-04:002010-04-06T15:54:38.196-04:00I have one word: Paris.
With height limits even m...I have one word: Paris.<br /><br />With height limits even more restrictive than DC, along with wide boulevards and some pretty big open spaces, Paris has still managed to become twice as dense as New York City.<br /><br />This is not to say that the Big Apple isn't sustainable, because it is. But height limits have a limited (pardon the pun) effect on densities and tall buildings are clearly not the be all end all of sustainable tactics. We could all live 50 miles away from our jobs and still be sustainable if we drove solar-powered cars and lived in mud huts.<br /><br />DC is one of the greenest cities in the country, and while LEED does help, it certainly doesn't do all the work.Critically Urbanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18184976993311486195noreply@blogger.com